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It's odd that we have words for some languages that are nothing like the words that those languages have for themselves (if you see what I mean).e.g. Deutsch calls itself Deutsch but we call it...
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The words hoar, hoary are cognates of Herr, according to OED1.All descend from the Old High German her, old. There is in fact an English word her, here, the exact equivalent of German Herr, meaning...
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Any relation to this?derived... by others from the German ger, gwer--i. e. Heer, =the warriors. Unless 'German' is reconstructed proto-germanic...
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Thanks all for this info. :-)Nelson: Hey, German boy. Go back to Germania!Uter: I do not deserve this. I have come here legally as an exchange student!
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So, the -ke part of the word is correctly pronounced Koo as in Cool. SHKIP-er-koo. Not like the english word "key." Or is it more like KUH as in the english word Cousin (KUH ZIN).??????????
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would expect a construction based on 'The People' (Us Guys, The Real People)Hwt. We Gardenain gear-dagum, eodcyninga,rym gefrunon,hu a elingasellen fremedon.That was English, do I have to translate...
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I'm corrected, and thanks for the both the Englishes.Does this mean Gardena (Spear Danes) is OE 'Germans'? edit; hang on, I guess that's 'of the' (possibly Germans) - but still, is it they?
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Does this mean Gardena (Spear Danes) is OE 'Germans'?I've often wondered about the mention of Danes in what purports to be an English tale. The Angles, Saxons and Jutes came from somewhere around what...
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If the author is a 'SpearDane', then yes. I don't want to come over as quibbling... but so far all of the names put forward for 'Germans' (including the one they call themselves) seem to be based on...
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so far all of the names put forward for 'Germans' (including the one they call themselves) seem to be based on something other.I was harkening back to Neufundlaender's:I have heard, and intend to...
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How wrong was I? A related discussion on 'German' (even the Finns and Hungarians get a mention).More of the same, from take our word for it .It's still not at all clear to me whether the Germans...
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I've followed this thread and I'm a bit confused. Is it the case that there was no German nation until the late 19th century. I thought "Germany" up until then was made up of smaller independent...
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Close, Eliza. German 'Herr' and Dutch/Afrikaans 'Heer' come from a Germanic root 'Herro' meaning something like 'devine'. As a prefix you can also find it in 'heerlijk'. I assume there will be a...
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onf, it's not a stupid comment at all - it's even germane to my own confusion. I've interpreted the later drift of this thread as an attempt to provide and explain a term by which Germans might once...
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>> Or even if the ancient Germans should be considered as Deutsch at all. If not the Germans, then who?
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I say... rather strong, that. There are suggestions that the ancient 'Germans' identified by early Latin authors were displaced by others - proto-germanic..? crypto-germanic?? - later known as the...
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I agree, dm. And while the ancestry of any one nation may be fascinating, I think it's best left to a dedicated forum. We could be on this for hours otherwise. Let's stick to etymology here.
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GPP saidetymology doesn't just come out of eymological dictionariesQuite so, and quite a few sources fail to distinguish between national identities, ethnicity and linguistic terms. Hardly surprising...
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This may sound like a joke, but I assure you I heard this from a teacher back in Jr. High.Apparently, some "scientist" in the past claimed that sound waves never completely dissipate. Therefore, as...
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The story does ring a vague bell - very vague, though. I think what you're asking is - if we accept this scientist's hypothesis as valid, how can etymologists justify their conclusions?
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